Mike Tyson Vs Klitschko
'Iron Mike': Klitschko gehört zu den ganz Großen. Mike Tyson hat nach dem Rücktritt von Wladimir Klitschko dessen Karriere gewürdigt: "Auf. Wir schauen uns die Paarung Tyson vs. Klitschko mal etwas näher an. Mike Tyson, „Iron Mike“ genannt, zählt wohl zu den schlagstärksten. Arnold Schwarzenegger und Wladimir Klitschko sollen Hück bei seinem ehrgeizigen Ziel unterstützen. None. Große Ziele: Uwe Hück will Mike.
Mike Tyson: „Würde beide Klitschkos in einer Runde umhauen“mike tyson comeback. Arnold Schwarzenegger und Wladimir Klitschko sollen Hück bei seinem ehrgeizigen Ziel unterstützen. None. Große Ziele: Uwe Hück will Mike. Ich bin zurück!“ Mit diesen drei Worten kündigte Box-Legende Mike Tyson (53) sein Comeback an. In einem Trainings-Video, das durch soziale.
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Though both of them have pretty good long left jabs and decent power in their right hand, they haven't encountered someone like Tyson who'd never stop coming at them and raining punches from all angles.
I think Mike could knock them out inside 5 rounds. Ok, some quick reality checks here I like the legend of Mike Tyson too Bonecrusher Smith was a beltholder Mike Spinks was a light heavy, not a heavy Surprisingly Tysons "prime" ended when he was 22?
It couldnt be because of the fact that when Tyson came out of jail there was suddenly a heavy amount of talent in the heavyweight division that he had NO HOPE of beating So Tyson's "peak"..
Wow was he a senior. Tyson's style was suspect because it had no lateral movement AND Tyson could not fight going backwards.. That was what Evander Holyfield figured out and everytime Tyson lunged forward, so would he..
And then he simply walked forward leaving Mike walking backwards.. Thats how he got knocked out. It was why Cus' style of boxing eventually went away One is 6'5 and one is 6'6, both an athletic lbs, both with very long jabs.
Tyson never fought anyone that was so much larger than he was, except Lennox Lewis at the end of his career. Tyson could bob and weave all he wanted Its too much room to make up.
Not to mention the fact that when a lb boxer is jabbing DOWN on you, gravity adds to your pain He went unbeaten from October to November as he reigned over the division, unifying the heavyweight belts.
But 'Iron Mike', who's still the youngest heavyweight champion in history, reckons he'd beat "almost anybody" on water, vegetables and vitamins.
Clean fighting, no drugs, food and water - the basics and I think I could beat almost anybody. I think I'd put my life on it that I could," he said back in during Klitschko's spell as heavyweight king.
After losing to James Buster Douglas, Tyson admitted he barely trained and instead partied with drugs and alcohol, showing little to no respect for his opponent.
Klitschko, supposedly the better of the two brothers, only has a slow left jab, followed by I assume a solid right hand—very avoidable if some of his opponents could slip punches.
I promise you'll get a knockout by waiting until the later rounds like Klitschko does, when opponents are worn down and start being aggressive.
All your childhood memories of opponents flying to the left and right have to be adjusted to the truth: The opponents were either small or bummy or both "Fly, bummy, fly!
Tillis ended Tyson's KO streak. And were it not for the unfortunate out-of-balance flash knockdown in round 4 Tillis might have even won against Tyson.
L et's take a look at Tyson's performances against other tall B-level fighters:. Tyson needed 10 rounds against this china-chinned [? It's astonishing that the oh-so-devastating Mike needed 7 rounds in the 7th round to KO someone.
What was the reason for these slowest KOs of Tyson's career? It turns out that the Joe Frazier limitations Fistic Statistic PerOppW] apply to Mike Tyson, too.
Fistic Statistic [ As you see Mike was more limited by the weight than by the quality of opposition. Tyson's triple point is approximately at lbs where he could go either way: KO'win, decision, loss.
You see 1 how the division changed while Tyson was in prison and 2 How Mike's chances diminished once the division got considerably heavier.
No wonder that Tyson's best days were behind him: The division got too modern for Mike and would be even more dangerous with the advent of the Klitschkos.
One has to doubt whether he would actually be given the chance to fight against the Klitschkos, since Mike would probably fail already against gatekeepers.
Please also read Wladimir Klitschko only wins by outweighing his opponents. He still was a little guy. He could neutralize his size handicap with speed.
His speed was so effective that the big guys were often clumsy uncoordinated who were bigger than him, until he fought those big guys who had skills and were not afraid of him.
But the big guys who were not super skillful , he would neutralize the size disadvantage with tremendous speed, footwork, head movement, and punching from short angles with all different types of punches.
The biggest thing he had was his speed and intensity over a lot of big guys, when they were not prepared or well enough coordinated to deal with that.
But the big guys who were not afraid of Mike and had any boxing skills, he had a problem with because Mike was a little guy… Mike had problems with big guys!
Evander Holyfield by the same token was just physically too small and Evander always had problems with jabs. I mean I trained him, and I had him sparring with guys who had good jabs, which is something he did have problems with.
Both Klitschkos hardly met such a light opponent. As you can see from the table Tyson was KO'ed by far lesser boxers and far lesser punchers than the Klitschkos.
We also know Tyson's animal'ish features from Tyson's ring behaviour : Yes, Tyson could snap like a panther on speed and even bite! T yson fans not only exaggerate Tyson's punch but at the same time underestimate the Klitschko's punch as you can see from the table above.
Question: "You have worked with a lot of world class fighters. Is Tyson the hardest puncher you have ever seen or should I say felt? Partly Mike could be so surprising because he was small thus could rotate 'n' hook his arms so fast.
He also had a good uppercut. But the hook speed and the uppercut get less and less relevant the more your opponents get out of reach. Thus such "surprise punches" come especially in close-range situations and therefore there is basically no chance to surprise the Klitschkos since they have perfected the skill of keeping opponents at bay.
And for those who claim that "size is not everything" let me assure you: Your chances I checked several ten thousand fights to win are approximately if you are out-weighed and out-talled.
In other words: You need to be 3 times better than your opponent if he outsizes you. Even if you don't believe that Klitschko has too much advantages over a small opponent you have to accept that being out-talled and out-weighed and out-reached so much definitely won't help you.
No comment needed. When you speculate about a Klitschko vs Tyson match it's also interesting to point out that 4 of the 5 KO'losses of Tyson happened against non-US boxers or happened not in the US :.
Since also the Klitschkos are not from the US their non-US'ness, too, would be an additional unfavorable factor against Tyson.
A dditionally it has been claimed by many that Tyson's major asset was his ability to induce fear. Emmanuel Steward perfectly sums it up:.
Mike WAS in his prime when he fought them and they weren't legendary names either… they just weren't afraid of him. It's important to know that Wladimir Klitschko strikes more fear into his opponents as they don't even want sign the contracts while Tyson's opponents at least dared to step into the ring with him.
Thus when it comes to fear Wladimir has an advantage. No other fans ignore and repress a boxer's losses and worse performances more than Tyson fans.
It's as if Tyson never lost or as if Tyson always won by KO in round 1. Moreover it utterly ignores Tyson's worse performances thus the logic could actually go the other way too: "If Tyson got KO'ed by Buster Douglas what makes you think Tyson can survive a Klitschko?
What makes you think that Mike Tyson could survive a Klitschko for 1 round? I urge everybody to watch Mike Tyson vs James Smith.
And yet, look how easily Mike Tyson is being held at bay by occasional jabs and clinching. James Smith wasn't even too experienced He wasn't even protecting his chin especially well.
And yet the same Smith makes Prime Tyson look like a green. Want to know the reason? As simple as that. Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko would have steamrolled over Mike Tyson that night and probably any other night.
I guarantee you that the same talks would go on if Lennox Lewis had not faced Mike Tyson. You would hear the same arguments:.
And why would Tyson fans talk like that? Unfortunately Vitali Klitschko vs Mike Tyson never happened. It was already in the making, but then Mike Tyson lost to Danny Williams and thus Vitali fought Williams instead an utterly one-sided beatdown.
I know that the comparison is a little bit off since you could claim "If you want to see how a Wladimir-vs-Tyson-clash would END then watch the last round " to which I would simply reply that the real end happened at the rematch "Klitschko vs Brewster II".
Mike Tyson's KOs are overrated but his career record is underrated. There is no chance that the boxing world will ever forget him.
But the big guys who were not afraid of Mike and had any boxing skills, he had a problem with because Mike was a little guy.
I will not believe this fight until I see David Haye in the corner July 2. Thank God, he is going first. Then I'll see, OK, he's there, then I'll come in.
Really end? You wanna take credit from Brewster victory? But than do not say you are objective. Everybody know that in second fight Brewster was in worse shape and Wlad was in worse shape during the first fight.
It was a punchers chance victory and Wladimir looked a little over exerted. Probably from all the clinching lol.
Wladimir learnt from his mistakes after his losses is also true. But big punches and gassing are part of boxing and you can't cover that up.
The fact he didn't pace himself or was over extended means he needed better conditioning or was wasting energy. The fact he got knocked despite he was winning means he needed to be more defensive which is why we find Wlad the way he is now lol.
Anyway Brewster is in overall terms a good boxer, he beat Wlad fair and square. Agreed it would be in Round 1 because it involves a BUM haha.
And if admin and his mother both sucked cock as good as Tyson fought they would both be famous for more than just this blog :.
I think this is a very good assessment. Although I think you used a lot of your comparisons to Mike late in his career, I still think you were right.
Both Klits would have beat Mike. Besides those 2 having chances I believe Lennox Lewis would be a nightmare for Wladimir Klitschko stylistically.
That overhand right just comes out of nowhere with so much power and precision. Lennox KO'd a bunch of quality oponents with that right.
All in their primes my top 5 would be: 1. Lennox Lewis 2. Vitali Klitschko 3. Mike Tyson 4. Wladimir Klitschko 5.
Evander Holyfield. What's your personal opinion and what do the statistics say? At heavyweight anyone can beat anyone, especially if that anyone is Klitschko, Lennox, Tyson, Evan Fields.
Lennox Lewis however is a different case. Lennox Lewis is maybe the bast ultraheavyweight who ever lived thus his chances against the Klitschkos are far superior to Tyson's.
Some things cannot be calculated with statistics, things that play a HUGE role in life which affects fighting abilty. Conclusion: when you are talking about prime Tyson, the last 10 years of his boxing career should not be counted.
Very convenient for you. Mike boxed in 18 years and the last 10 should not be counted. Pure speculation. I utterly don't accept this notion.
Mike was released out of prison when he was 28 years old, which is usually the prime of a heavyweight. One cannot cherry-pick "Oh, 29, that's old" but then fully credit Mike's wins against year-olds.
But admin, whatever happened with Tyson against Buster aside, he did lay off his real coach and after that he spent a few years in jail where he couldn't train boxing properly at all or box and while in prison undertook significant weight training instead which I believe didn't help his style one bit because he needed to be fast and dynamic.
Age wise yes he would have still been in his prime but his prime as far as his ability goes was pre-jail.
Smith was so scared that he held Tyson like an octopus for the whole fight and only threw one meaningful punch in the final round, while Green ran like a thief and also continously held Tyson.
The big oaf McBride couldn't punch hard enought to crack an egg, but just leaned on a old, unmotivated, undertrained shadow of Mike Tyson.
We all know about Buster but we also know that leading up to that fight, Tyson wasn't focused on training and was even floored in a sparring session, not to mention he had at this time probably the most inept corner ever assembled for a championship fight.
Meanwhile Buster despite or because of the death of his mother put on the best fight of his career against a highly unfocused undertrained Tyson. People tend to forget that Tyson had Douglas all but knocked out before being knocked out himself, Douglas was just in an incredible zone that night in a once in a lifetime type of performance against a sub-par Tyson.
Earlier Tyson victims like Frank Bruno, Pinklon Thomas, and Trevor Berbick were all about Buster's size so that I would say Buster's will and not his size were the determining factor in this fight.
Tyson in his prime was a larger, more powerful, faster, two-handed version of Joe Frazier with defense and I think Joe would go the distance with Wlad only to lose a decision.
These guys were far from stellar, yet Tyson could not handle them properly because they were too tall. He nearly knocked him out yes but apart from that Douglas was winning entire fight.
They didn't try to win, only survive. Maybe that's why Buster did better because he wasn't afraid. You contradict yourself because in another article you said that height is not such a big advantage.
In reality it is a huge factor. When Wladimir Klitschko faced Tony Thompson his awesome defence was useless because Thompson was almost as tall as Wlad.
Punching power won him the fight. I think that Mike would be more competive against Vitalij. Vitalij is slower and does not have same punching power as Wlad.
No, I stated in the other article, that height is a small factor when the opponent is bummy. Weight is a far bigger factor even if your opponent is bummy.
Thompson was almost as tall as Wlad, that's true. I did not know that Thompson was heavier but he had many chances to attack Wlad. Wlads chin was wide open.
It was a shame that Thompson was featherfist because technicaly he was very solid. Even Lewis said that. Thompson is not a featherfist. That Thompson lost basically every round while outweighing Wlad just shows you the class that Wlad is.
And, look, you can always find some guy who was taller and lost or who was taller and won. And you can always find some guy who was heavier and lost or was lighter and won.
Thompson was no great KO artist. Please stop overrating Wlads oponnents. His two best oponents were Corrie Sanders and David Haye. My personal opinion is that prime Riddick Bowe would be great challenge for Wlad.
Obviously Riddick would be challenge for Wladimir. Even thought Bowe dodged Lewis, had they fought, Lewis would not have "walked over" Bowe, as would be the case Wlad vs Bowe.
To simply dismiss great modern boxing champ against Wlad with a simple statement "he would throw his belt in the trash" but devote 10 articles to how Wladimir would kill a champ of 40 years ago does not cut it.
Once again you are miscomparing stats to prove your point. Tyson had a solid punch that knocked out well over 20 opponents all taller than him.
After he went to prison where he couldn't train he was on a decline, especially when don king that ex murderer started to influence him and distract him.
Tyson would have destroyed klitcho because klitcho faces the same problem, never having fought a fighter of decent skill except Lewis and he got it handed to him.
Tyson and Tommy Morrison are my 2 favourite boxers and they both were champions and both competitive in the modern sense. But they would NOT have destroyed the Klitschko's dude.
Tommy was not skilled enough to get inside Wlad and land his big bombs. He still had enough skill to last with Wlad and had a strong punchers chance one of the hardest punchers of all time but probably would have ended the same as with Lennox.
Tommy also had a suspect chin.12/18/ · Mike Tyson vs Klitschko brothers? Lets say Mike was in his prime and he was put up against Vitali or Vladimir. Could Mike have been capable of beating them? I think he could beat Vladimir but vitali would be a close fight. Source(s): mike tyson klitschko brothers: festyvocal.com 0 0. 9/29/ · Mike tyson vs vitali klitschko who wins? I see the fight going like this I see the fight ending in Tyson knocks Vitali out like he did Tyrell biggs or Tyson 12 round dec. 11/27/ · The Brit ace KOd Tyson in the eighth round of a brutal bout, with his fight against Klitschko stopped after the sixth round after Lewis opened a huge cut above the Ukrainian's eye.